Article :
11923
Date :
20-04-2006
From :
Dr Balwinder S Dheeman
Sujet :
[Fwd: [yate] we hire!!!]
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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Hello, C++ Programmers!
IMHO, forwarding this (see attachment) could be helpful to some of the
C++ Programmers looking for a good job.
Article :
11925
Date :
20-04-2006
From :
asterisc
Sujet :
Re: we hire!!!]
> Hello,
>
> We have 2 open positions for c++ developers in Bucharest, Romania.
> Please send the CV's on my personal e-mail address at: diana at voip.null.ro
>
> Diana Cionoiu
Article :
11926
Date :
20-04-2006
From :
Ivan Vecerina
Sujet :
Re: we hire!!!]
"asterisc" wrote in message
news:1145560489.845334.20280@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
:> Hello,
: >
: > We have 2 open positions for c++ developers in Bucharest, Romania.
: > Please send the CV's on my personal e-mail address at: diana at
voip.null.ro
: >
: > Diana Cionoiu
:
: I'm proud being a romanian :(
You can.
Idiocy has no homeland, even though idiots tend to have one.
Best regards,
Ivan
--
http://ivan.vecerina.com/contact/?subject=NG_POST <- email contact form
Article :
11927
Date :
20-04-2006
From :
Dr Balwinder S Dheeman
Sujet :
Re: [yate] We hire C++ programmers
On 04/20/06 22:39, Ivan Vecerina wrote:
> Plonk!
Stupid!!
Please read before you reply, and for your kind information the reply
address was duly given in the forwarded message.
What'as the bloody SPAM you found?
YATE (Yet Another Telephony Engine) http://YATE.null.ro/ is an F/LOSS
(Free/Libre Open Source Software) PBX project natively developed by Null
Team, Romania on Linux and has recently been ported (sponsored by
Sangoma Technologies Corporation http://www.sangoma.com/) for Windows also.
They want to hire 2 full-time C++ programmers to work in Bucharest,
Romania. They will work mostly on development of Yate and related
applications.
Article :
11928
Date :
20-04-2006
From :
Alf P. Steinbach
Sujet :
Re: [yate] We hire C++ programmers
* Dr Balwinder S Dheeman:
> On 04/20/06 22:39, Ivan Vecerina wrote:
>> Plonk!
>
> What'as the bloody SPAM you found?
Ivan found your spam.
As a Dr you should have learned to check out how to use something (in
this case, Usenet) before trying to use it.
Cross-posting to several unrelated groups is bad enough. And your job
offer is OFF TOPIC in all groups posted to (read their FAQs, Dr). Which
means you've acted like an inconsiderate, less than intelligent spammer.
--
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is it such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
Article :
11929
Date :
20-04-2006
From :
Dave Uhring
Sujet :
Re: [yate] We hire C++ programmers
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:06:59 +0530, Dr Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:
> On 04/20/06 22:39, Ivan Vecerina wrote:
>> Plonk!
>
> Stupid!!
>
> Please read before you reply, and for your kind information the reply
> address was duly given in the forwarded message.
You really are a fucking moron, responding to someone who has plonked you.
You also posted an attachment to a Usenet article, further evidence of
your idiocy.
Article :
11930
Date :
21-04-2006
From :
Default User
Sujet :
Re: [Fwd: [yate] we hire!!!]
Dr Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:
> Hello, C++ Programmers!
>
> IMHO, forwarding this (see attachment) could be helpful to some of the
> C++ Programmers looking for a good job.
As it says in this newsgroup's FAQ:
Should I post job advertisements and/or resumes on comp.lang.c++?
NO!!!
Job ads, off-topic in comp.lang.c++, give the impression of an employer
that is irresponsible and/or technically clueless - not the impression
you want to make! Instead post your job ad / resume on one of the
dozens of *.jobs.* newsgroups that are designed for that purpose.
Article :
11931
Date :
21-04-2006
From :
Phlip
Sujet :
Re: [yate] We hire C++ programmers
Dr Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:
> They want to hire 2 full-time C++ programmers to work in Bucharest,
> Romania. They will work mostly on development of Yate and related
> applications.
I don't know about the other newsgroups here, but in general the C++
newsgroup FAQ summarizes the situation well:
Article :
11933
Date :
21-04-2006
From :
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Sujet :
Re: [yate] We hire C++ programmers
Dr Balwinder S Dheeman writes:
> What'as the bloody SPAM you found?
>
> YATE (Yet Another Telephony Engine) http://YATE.null.ro/ is an F/LOSS
> (Free/Libre Open Source Software) PBX project natively developed by Null
> Team, Romania on Linux and has recently been ported (sponsored by
> Sangoma Technologies Corporation http://www.sangoma.com/) for Windows also.
>
> They want to hire 2 full-time C++ programmers to work in Bucharest,
> Romania. They will work mostly on development of Yate and related
> applications.
You should have said this in your first msg instead of making it look
like Yet Another Piece of Headhunter SPAM. ;-)
-wolfgang
--
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/
Article :
11935
Date :
21-04-2006
From :
Dr Balwinder S Dheeman
Sujet :
Re: [yate] We hire C++ programmers
On 04/21/06 02:33, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
> * Dr Balwinder S Dheeman:
>> On 04/20/06 22:39, Ivan Vecerina wrote:
>>> Plonk!
>>
>> What'as the bloody SPAM you found?
>
> Ivan found your spam.
>
> As a Dr you should have learned to check out how to use something (in
> this case, Usenet) before trying to use it.
>
> Cross-posting to several unrelated groups is bad enough. And your job
> offer is OFF TOPIC in all groups posted to (read their FAQs, Dr). Which
> means you've acted like an inconsiderate, less than intelligent spammer.
I don't think these groups are unrelated to YATE and even each other.
FYI, It is not my job offer, I only was trying to spread the word by
forwarding an offer from Free/Lire Open Source Software developer
company. FYI, I have no any direct and, or indirect commercial relations
with them.
Article :
11936
Date :
21-04-2006
From :
Dr Balwinder S Dheeman
Sujet :
Re: [yate] We hire C++ programmers
On 04/21/06 05:23, Phlip wrote:
> Dr Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:
>
>> They want to hire 2 full-time C++ programmers to work in Bucharest,
>> Romania. They will work mostly on development of Yate and related
>> applications.
>
> I don't know about the other newsgroups here, but in general the C++
> newsgroup FAQ summarizes the situation well:
>
> http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq-lite/how-to-post.html#faq-5.10
>
> "Job ads, off-topic in comp.lang.c++, give the impression of an employer
> that is irresponsible and/or technically clueless".
I was me, who is trying to spread the word for a Free/Libre Open Source
Software project, not the employers themselves.
> We are aware that some of the responses give the impression of newsgroup
> members who are completely clueless and rude; that's no excuse.
>
> You would do much better networking in your communities than collating a
> stack of resumes from all over the world.
Ok, But that's is clearly mentioned in the request they need it for
Bucharest, Romania.
Article :
11937
Date :
21-04-2006
From :
Dr Balwinder S Dheeman
Sujet :
Re: [yate] We hire C++ programmers
On 04/21/06 06:45, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
> Dr Balwinder S Dheeman writes:
>> What'as the bloody SPAM you found?
>>
>> YATE (Yet Another Telephony Engine) http://YATE.null.ro/ is an F/LOSS
>> (Free/Libre Open Source Software) PBX project natively developed by Null
>> Team, Romania on Linux and has recently been ported (sponsored by
>> Sangoma Technologies Corporation http://www.sangoma.com/) for Windows also.
>>
>> They want to hire 2 full-time C++ programmers to work in Bucharest,
>> Romania. They will work mostly on development of Yate and related
>> applications.
>
> You should have said this in your first msg instead of making it look
> like Yet Another Piece of Headhunter SPAM. ;-)
Admitted, that's my mistake. I should have re-phrased their requirement
properly; I shall definitely take great care in the future, thanks.
Article :
11938
Date :
21-04-2006
From :
Dr Balwinder S Dheeman
Sujet :
Re: [yate] We hire C++ programmers
On 04/21/06 02:35, Dave Uhring wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:06:59 +0530, Dr Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:
>
>> On 04/20/06 22:39, Ivan Vecerina wrote:
>>> Plonk!
>> Stupid!!
>>
>> Please read before you reply, and for your kind information the reply
>> address was duly given in the forwarded message.
>
> You really are a fucking moron, responding to someone who has plonked you.
> You also posted an attachment to a Usenet article, further evidence of
> your idiocy.
So ..., is that makes you feel an intelligent and, or more learned person?
What's wrong in posting and, or forwarding a small text message in its
original form to the Usenet? What would be the difference if someone
includes the same text instead of attaching it?
Article :
11940
Date :
21-04-2006
From :
Ivor Jones
Sujet :
Re: [yate] We hire C++ programmers
"Dr Balwinder S Dheeman" wrote in message news:g9glh3xemf.ln2@sun.sebs.org.in
[snip]
> What's wrong in posting and, or forwarding a small text
> message in its original form to the Usenet? What would be
> the difference if someone includes the same text instead
> of attaching it?
Do you really need that one spelling out..? Anything could be in an
attachment. Nobody with any sense opens them.
> Thanks, but no thanks.
My thoughts exactly. Take your spam elsewhere (but not to any groups I
subscribe to, please).
Article :
11942
Date :
21-04-2006
From :
Ivan Vecerina
Sujet :
Re: [yate] We hire C++ programmers [ NO MORE POSTINGS HERE PLEASE ]
"Dr Balwinder S Dheeman" wrote in message
news:g9glh3xemf.ln2@sun.sebs.org.in...
: On 04/21/06 02:35, Dave Uhring wrote:
: > On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:06:59 +0530, Dr Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:
: >
: >> On 04/20/06 22:39, Ivan Vecerina wrote:
: >>> Plonk!
: >> Stupid!!
Let me summarize the story:
I notice that a totally off-topic message is posted. A message that
makes one waste even more time by requiring the opening of an
attachment.
Many people read these forums to provide help and assistance to
people who may need it. A valuable helper is even more likely to
waste his time because he will pay attention to an unanswered post.
All I did was make a favor to the online community by labeling
your thread as what it is - SPAM.
You call this stupid?
: >> Please read before you reply, and for your kind information the reply
: >> address was duly given in the forwarded message.
: >
: > You really are a fucking moron, responding to someone who has plonked
you.
: > You also posted an attachment to a Usenet article, further evidence of
: > your idiocy.
:
: So ..., is that makes you feel an intelligent and, or more learned
person?
I found Dave's comment to be rather entertaining and to the point.
I had such a good laugh that it even made me read this whole thread
again, and even dig out your reply.
: What's wrong in posting and, or forwarding a small text message in its
: original form to the Usenet? What would be the difference if someone
: includes the same text instead of attaching it?
What makes you think that a significant ratio of people in these
newsgroups might be looking for a job ?
And if someone is indeed looking for a job, how likely is he to
be interested in a position based in Romania ?
More importantly, how many similar job postings would we have to
tolerate on these forums, daily, if yours was to be acceptable ?
You claim you have no connection with the original job poster, but
who will believe that you pick random postings to submit them here?
Try to think, Dheeman, was your posting here any more relevant or
better targeted than a penis enlagement pill or a refinancing offer
would be?
It is just as irrelevant to most of us.
Some have kindly tried to explain this situation to you, and
you still act like you don't understand ?!?!?
Whether you like it or not, Dr Balwinder Singh Dheeman is now
known as a spammer. Too bad for you if this is your real name.
And you are the joke of the party.
I feel pity for you, so here's my final advice:
Shut up and disappear ! Run!!!
anything but a humble apology does nothing but cover with shame
the original job poster, your company, and anyone who has
any connection with you.
Don't expect salvation for yourself, but try to have
some mercy for your friends and peers.
Goodbye!
Dr Ivan Vecerina
--
http://ivan.vecerina.com/contact/?subject=NG_POST <- email contact form
Article :
11945
Date :
21-04-2006
From :
Noah Roberts
Sujet :
Re: We hire C++ programmers
Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Dr Balwinder S Dheeman" > wrote in message news:g9glh3xemf.ln2@sun.sebs.org.in
>
> [snip]
>
> > What's wrong in posting and, or forwarding a small text
> > message in its original form to the Usenet? What would be
> > the difference if someone includes the same text instead
> > of attaching it?
>
> Do you really need that one spelling out..? Anything could be in an
> attachment. Nobody with any sense opens them.
Nobody with any sense uses a client that runs every attachment like an
executable. In fact most people with sense use clients that ask before
running even an executable it was requested to open.
The only people that have to worry about ALL attachments are certain
Windows users that use the clients MS gave them. Text attachments
shouldn't be any concern to anyone in this group even if their client
is capable of opening attachments. We're all too smart to use those
broken news clients, right?
Article :
11946
Date :
21-04-2006
From :
Noah Roberts
Sujet :
Re: We hire C++ programmers [ NO MORE POSTINGS HERE PLEASE ]
Ivan Vecerina wrote:
> "Dr Balwinder S Dheeman" wrote in message
> news:g9glh3xemf.ln2@sun.sebs.org.in...
> : On 04/21/06 02:35, Dave Uhring wrote:
> : > On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:06:59 +0530, Dr Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:
> : >
> : >> On 04/20/06 22:39, Ivan Vecerina wrote:
> : >>> Plonk!
> : >> Stupid!!
>
> Let me summarize the story:
> I notice that a totally off-topic message is posted. A message that
> makes one waste even more time by requiring the opening of an
> attachment.
You mean wasting time like - replying to someone you killfiled??? -
Article :
11947
Date :
21-04-2006
From :
Alf P. Steinbach
Sujet :
Re: We hire C++ programmers
* Noah Roberts:
> Ivor Jones wrote:
>> "Dr Balwinder S Dheeman" >> wrote in message news:g9glh3xemf.ln2@sun.sebs.org.in
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>> What's wrong in posting and, or forwarding a small text
>>> message in its original form to the Usenet? What would be
>>> the difference if someone includes the same text instead
>>> of attaching it?
>> Do you really need that one spelling out..? Anything could be in an
>> attachment. Nobody with any sense opens them.
>
> Nobody with any sense uses a client that runs every attachment like an
> executable. In fact most people with sense use clients that ask before
> running even an executable it was requested to open.
>
> The only people that have to worry about ALL attachments are certain
> Windows users that use the clients MS gave them. Text attachments
> shouldn't be any concern to anyone in this group even if their client
> is capable of opening attachments. We're all too smart to use those
> broken news clients, right?
I tend to agree.
A text file attachement /containing source code/ can be very useful in a
programming group.
I can see the code directly in my newsreader (currently Thunderbird with
NewsWorthy extension), and I can easily save the file.
Follow-ups to [news.misc] (note: I don't read that group ;-)).
--
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is it such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
Article :
11948
Date :
21-04-2006
From :
Robert Bonomi
Sujet :
Re: [yate] We hire C++ programmers
In article ,
Dr Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:
>On 04/21/06 05:23, Phlip wrote:
>> Dr Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:
>>
>>> They want to hire 2 full-time C++ programmers to work in Bucharest,
>>> Romania. They will work mostly on development of Yate and related
>>> applications.
>>
>> I don't know about the other newsgroups here, but in general the C++
>> newsgroup FAQ summarizes the situation well:
>>
>> http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq-lite/how-to-post.html#faq-5.10
>>
>> "Job ads, off-topic in comp.lang.c++, give the impression of an employer
>> that is irresponsible and/or technically clueless".
>
>I was me, who is trying to spread the word for a Free/Libre Open Source
>Software project, not the employers themselves.
So you are _admitting_ to
1) being irresponsible and/or technically clueless,
2) trying to give the impression that *they* are irresponsible and/or clueless
CONGRATULATIONS!!
you've succeeded beyond all expectations on the first count.
And, having done it in several world-wide forums, you can rest assured
that your reputation _will _follow you.
Smart move for a 'chief technology officer'.
It really is a shame you don't know how to use the technology known as USENET.
And couldn't be bothered to find out about 'appropriate use' *before* abusing
it.
Hint: look up 'netiquette',
Hint: look up 'read be fore you post' to a nenwsgroup
Hint: look up 'newsgroup charter'
Article :
12028
Date :
05-05-2006
From :
James
Sujet :
Re: We hire C++ programmers
Every person wants to rise, loves good work and there also not any
guarantee that every body in this group is employed or at good post. I
think Dr has done this taking these points in his mind and showing
his helping nature.
I think we should not respond him so badly like shown. he is a 'chief
technology officer' might be having very good technical knowledge.
If anybody doesnt like his mail , simply ignore or request him not to
put it again. But responding like is really bad.
Article :
12029
Date :
05-05-2006
From :
James
Sujet :
Re: We hire C++ programmers
Every person wants to rise, loves good work and there also not any
guarantee that every body in this group is employed or at good post. I
think Dr has done this taking these points in his mind and showing
his helping nature.
I think we should not respond him so badly like shown. he is a 'chief
technology officer' might be having very good technical knowledge. A
very good Technocrates are never gud communicators.
If anybody doesnt like his mail , simply ignore or request him not to
put it again. But responding like is really shame for all of us.
Article :
12030
Date :
05-05-2006
From :
red floyd
Sujet :
Re: We hire C++ programmers
James wrote:
> Every person wants to rise, loves good work and there also not any
> guarantee that every body in this group is employed or at good post. I
> think Dr has done this taking these points in his mind and showing
> his helping nature.
>
> I think we should not respond him so badly like shown. he is a 'chief
> technology officer' might be having very good technical knowledge.
>
> If anybody doesnt like his mail , simply ignore or request him not to
> put it again. But responding like is really bad.
>
If he's a "Chief Technical Officer", he should know to read the FAQ for
the groups that he's posting to. The FAQ for comp.lang.c++ specifically
says that job postings are OT. Hence, he's a spammer.
Article :
12031
Date :
06-05-2006
From :
Dr Balwinder S Dheeman
Sujet :
Re: We hire C++ programmers
On 05/05/06 23:34, red floyd wrote:
> James wrote:
>> Every person wants to rise, loves good work and there also not any
>> guarantee that every body in this group is employed or at good post. I
>> think Dr has done this taking these points in his mind and showing
>> his helping nature.
>>
>> I think we should not respond him so badly like shown. he is a 'chief
>> technology officer' might be having very good technical knowledge.
>>
>> If anybody doesnt like his mail , simply ignore or request him not to
>> put it again. But responding like is really bad.
>>
>
> If he's a "Chief Technical Officer", he should know to read the FAQ for
> the groups that he's posting to. The FAQ for comp.lang.c++ specifically
> says that job postings are OT. Hence, he's a spammer.
I already apologized (which to the best of my knowledge, spammers never
do), the way I posted that in a harried manner as soon as the news came
to me that Yate people are expanding their development team.
Article :
12032
Date :
06-05-2006
From :
Alex Buell
Sujet :
Re: We hire C++ programmers
On 6 May 2006 00:42:31 +0200 Dr Balwinder S Dheeman
waved a wand and this message magically
appeared:
> I already apologized (which to the best of my knowledge, spammers
> never do), the way I posted that in a harried manner as soon as the
> news came to me that Yate people are expanding their development team.
Just in case, you ought to know I'm looking for a job.